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Posted by: CrazyHobo
« on: April 03, 2011, 12:24:51 pm »

give me a list of goal you fail to understand how to achieve and I will do my best to assist.
Posted by: CrazyHobo
« on: April 03, 2011, 11:44:25 am »

exactly.
It's all about adapting to your situation
Posted by: BlackRain
« on: April 03, 2011, 11:43:33 am »

Good point. I suppose it's because Vora started teaching me when I was twelve.

I had to learn how to understand him pretty quickly.
Posted by: CrazyHobo
« on: April 03, 2011, 11:38:41 am »

people are different. When I was 15, it would take me up to 4 months to understand what our conversation was about.
Posted by: BlackRain
« on: April 03, 2011, 11:28:03 am »

Is it strange that I understood most of that as soon as I read it?

While I understand the writings and the meanings, I've no idea how to achieve the goals presented in these conversations...

I likely have less voices than most, but I do know I have more than one. Maybe ten, twenty.

Ugh... I should start meditating again.

Hobo, thank you for showing me this site. It'll do me some good to study again.
Posted by: CrazyHobo
« on: March 11, 2011, 06:02:00 am »

there are only a few ways to fail in this path:
1) Commit suicide, because that intervenes with the plans of your true self.
2) Attempt to shun, destroy and ignore your true self.

The whole goal is to learn the ability to silence your mind of all chaotic thoughts, so that you could listen directly to your true self, who is pulling the strings of the world. That's the whole point of the path, not worshiping some altar of a black dragon.

Only way to learn this is to discipline your mind, build your willpower and your awareness. Meditation is key in this. Zen is best (though it is difficult finding a temple in Europe).

Everything else is secondary.
Posted by: Sir Modemkill, Cyborg!
« on: March 10, 2011, 03:48:11 pm »

Hmm....

Interesting...Vora never fails to amaze me with his knowledge of life.

The middle ground eh...

I've been shunning everyone, especially recently...should I let others in?

Though...I have so many mental walls separating the outside world from myself..me, in my dark, lonely, isolated world, standing alone. I don't think I even know how to interact with people anymore.

It's been so long...I can't remember the last time I felt any of the emotions.

Heh..This must be what it feels like to be dead...it feels....good.


....

Have I really strayed from the path of the Dragon? have I failed?
Posted by: CrazyHobo
« on: February 22, 2011, 04:39:08 am »

but the year barely started, Mustang  #P

Thanks for the commentary
Posted by: Mustang MKIII
« on: February 21, 2011, 07:21:13 am »

This was the most enlightening thing I've read this year.
Posted by: CrazyHobo
« on: February 20, 2011, 07:42:53 pm »

if that's what you percieve, Patrick, then be my guest: be the companion of the Dragon's Will.

It really is confusing. Usually takes me 3-4 months to understand what our conversation was about.

It'll come with time  ;)
Posted by: TRHeadshot
« on: February 20, 2011, 12:21:37 pm »

   One of my personal beliefs in life is reflected within the Fangs. I believe that life is always better when you find others willing to spend it with you. You must always enjoy the periods of your life when you are alone, as loneliness can be a virtue, and you must never let others take over your reason for living. Mutuality is something to be appreciated, in my views. I've always seen myself, as a companion- or counterpart - to the Dragon Spirit, as the Will and Rage of Fenrir flows through my veins.
Posted by: Superchaos2585
« on: February 20, 2011, 12:15:02 pm »

Hmm. I'd like to talk to Vora again at some  point. It's been too long.


Very good Igor.
Posted by: TRHeadshot
« on: February 20, 2011, 12:11:18 pm »

I'm so confused, everything sounds so... contrary... and yet.... the underlying message.... aghhhh....
Posted by: CrazyHobo
« on: February 20, 2011, 11:40:48 am »

feel like you have more questions?

I'll try answering them, but Vorax would be better at it.
Posted by: CrazyHobo
« on: February 20, 2011, 11:39:18 am »

Part 3b

16.02.2011  21:37:38  Игорь  Vorakull  could you suggest me a new technique? Tantra no longer suits me, as my imagination has ceased to amuse me
16.02.2011  21:37:40  Vorakull  Игорь  to develop the ability to turn on and off our voices and other systems
16.02.2011  21:37:49  Vorakull  Игорь  Zen
16.02.2011  21:37:52  Vorakull  Игорь  saZen
16.02.2011  21:38:00  Игорь  Vorakull  where did you learn them?
16.02.2011  21:38:30  Vorakull  Игорь  from my own master, in old days
16.02.2011  21:38:46  Vorakull  Игорь  but Ill go to a temple when I return from the coast
16.02.2011  21:39:43  Игорь  Vorakull  well lucky you
16.02.2011  21:39:52  Игорь  Vorakull  there are no Zen temples around my vicinitty
16.02.2011  21:39:54  Vorakull  Игорь  in the meanwhile
16.02.2011  21:39:58  Vorakull  Игорь  research about it
16.02.2011  21:40:05  Vorakull  Игорь  read and practice  
16.02.2011  21:40:24  Игорь  Vorakull  it is possible to learn Zen through a book, right?
16.02.2011  21:41:08  Vorakull  Игорь  at least some basis
16.02.2011  21:41:14  Vorakull  Игорь  I believe is better than nothing
16.02.2011  21:41:23  Игорь  Vorakull  at least that is true
16.02.2011  21:41:41  Игорь  Vorakull  Vorax, thank you for giving me a proper purpose for spending time now
16.02.2011  21:41:54  Vorakull  Игорь  my pleasure
16.02.2011  21:42:34  Игорь  Vorakull  honestly, the past months have been a waste of time by asking myself question, like "why was I born?", "What is the meaning of life?" and other non-sense
16.02.2011  21:43:01  Vorakull  Игорь  its part of the plan you ignore those things
16.02.2011  21:43:11  Игорь  Vorakull  I only now understand that
16.02.2011  21:44:09  Vorakull  Игорь  try not to distract your mind so much, channel your impulses to production or creativity
16.02.2011  21:44:45  Игорь  Vorakull  even though those impulses are sporadic?
16.02.2011  21:45:54  Vorakull  Игорь  discipline yourself to be above non programmed impulses
16.02.2011  21:46:23  Игорь  Vorakull  and how do you tell the difference between a non-programmed and programmed impulse?
16.02.2011  21:46:33  Vorakull  Игорь  program your possible reactions to extreme circumstances and reserve your energy on diary situations
16.02.2011  21:47:00  Vorakull  Игорь  because you are aware of your programmed impulses
16.02.2011  21:47:19  Vorakull  Игорь  you visualize them before doing them, thats the point on programming one self
16.02.2011  21:47:36  Игорь  Vorakull  you mean trying to understand how I will react under a certain situation?
16.02.2011  21:48:34  Vorakull  Игорь  not merely understand, but research thew best possible reaction and train it
16.02.2011  21:48:50  Игорь  Vorakull  and that's discipline?
16.02.2011  21:49:00  Vorakull  Игорь  its what training represents for your body
16.02.2011  21:49:03  Vorakull  Игорь  but for the mind
16.02.2011  21:49:24  Игорь  Vorakull  you know, you should write a **** bible or something for studying the Dragon way, you know that?
16.02.2011  21:50:13  Vorakull  Игорь  discipline is the acquirement of habits
16.02.2011  21:50:30  Vorakull  Игорь  mmm, probably, sadly, I dont have the time
16.02.2011  21:50:36  Игорь  Vorakull  sadly indeed
16.02.2011  21:50:54  Vorakull  Игорь  thats why I would like to rely on you
16.02.2011  21:51:04  Игорь  Vorakull  you want me to write the Dragon bible?
16.02.2011  21:51:19  Vorakull  Игорь  thats what we were doing while writing the story
16.02.2011  21:51:22  Vorakull  Игорь  in a way
16.02.2011  21:51:27  Игорь  Vorakull  oh
16.02.2011  21:51:37  Игорь  Vorakull  well then
16.02.2011  21:51:57  Игорь  Vorakull  I do hope for you to get your own PC soon, along with internet, so we could resume the writing
16.02.2011  21:52:13  Vorakull  Игорь  of course, thats my wish too
16.02.2011  21:52:37  Игорь  Vorakull  very well
16.02.2011  21:52:46  Игорь  Vorakull  oh
16.02.2011  21:52:48  Игорь  Vorakull  almost forgot
16.02.2011  21:53:35  Игорь  Vorakull  I re-re-sent Hobo's diary, which involved some romantic bullshit about Hobo's relationship with your cousin. I personally stopped believing in the concepts of romance, so if you wish, we can have that part completely removed
16.02.2011  21:53:55  Vorakull  Игорь  mmm
16.02.2011  21:54:40  Vorakull  Игорь  let me read everything when find myself with some time in my hands, and then I will give you my opinion
16.02.2011  21:54:48  Игорь  Vorakull  understood
16.02.2011  21:54:48  Vorakull  Игорь  alright?
16.02.2011  21:54:52  Игорь  Vorakull  sure
16.02.2011  21:55:10  Игорь  Vorakull  I was just under a flow of false beliefs about the existance of true love
16.02.2011  21:55:44  Vorakull  Игорь  true love never focus on specifics
16.02.2011  21:55:48  Vorakull  Игорь  is universal
16.02.2011  21:55:59  Vorakull  Игорь  and you can feel it for yourself
16.02.2011  21:56:18  Игорь  Vorakull  true love can't be focused only on one person? it's something more vast?
16.02.2011  21:56:44  Vorakull  Игорь  love for one person is always delusional
16.02.2011  21:56:59  Vorakull  Игорь  true love dont let anything out
16.02.2011  21:57:08  Vorakull  Игорь  because you are what you conceive
16.02.2011  21:57:22  Vorakull  Игорь  if you conceive something, and you dont love it
16.02.2011  21:57:29  Vorakull  Игорь  youre not loving a part of yourself
16.02.2011  21:57:34  Vorakull  Игорь  the part that conceives it
16.02.2011  21:57:47  Vorakull  Игорь  true love is a state
16.02.2011  21:57:53  Игорь  Vorakull  that I figured
16.02.2011  21:58:02  Игорь  Vorakull  though I get the feeling it is not a constant state
16.02.2011  21:58:10  Vorakull  Игорь  could be
16.02.2011  21:58:26  Игорь  Vorakull  but in our situations is not, right?
16.02.2011  21:58:45  Vorakull  Игорь  whats our situations?
16.02.2011  21:59:10  Игорь  Vorakull  we're cold hearted bastards, that can't wait for the zombie apocalypse to start
16.02.2011  21:59:25  Vorakull  Игорь  quite the contrary
16.02.2011  21:59:25  Игорь  Vorakull  and we love ourselves to the point of narcisim
16.02.2011  21:59:42  Vorakull  Игорь  we are extremely sensitive persons
16.02.2011  21:59:52  Vorakull  Игорь  we love humankind so much
16.02.2011  21:59:56  Игорь  Vorakull  we hate it?
16.02.2011  22:00:15  Vorakull  Игорь  we want them to free themselves from this rotten culture and dangerous bodies
16.02.2011  22:00:37  Игорь  Vorakull  and that's why we want the zed apocalypse?
16.02.2011  22:00:51  Vorakull  Игорь  the best of being human is the chance of trascend being human
16.02.2011  22:01:01  Vorakull  Игорь  the zed apocalipse is a simbol
16.02.2011  22:02:19  Игорь  Vorakull  well, the cultures may be rotten, but I have to admit, I do love Argentinian tango :P
16.02.2011  22:02:36  Vorakull  Игорь  hehe
16.02.2011  22:02:41  Vorakull  Игорь  wait
16.02.2011  22:03:15  Vorakull  Игорь  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4f4OaVKsZk
16.02.2011  22:03:43  Игорь  Vorakull  you do know how to please me
16.02.2011  22:04:46  Vorakull  Игорь  he talks about a woman he loves who prostitutes herself after he worked for years, being poor, to give her a home
16.02.2011  22:05:10  Vorakull  Игорь  it express the romance of suicidal feeling
16.02.2011  22:05:32  Vorakull  Игорь  as most of tangos
16.02.2011  22:06:07  Vorakull  Игорь  ill translate the lyrics for you one of these days
16.02.2011  22:08:08  Игорь  Vorakull  thank you
16.02.2011  22:08:18  Игорь  Vorakull  now I understand, why you say the culture is rotten :P
16.02.2011  22:08:46  Игорь  Vorakull  but still lovely
16.02.2011  22:08:59  Vorakull  Игорь  masses of people sucks
16.02.2011  22:09:18  Vorakull  Игорь  let me rephrase
16.02.2011  22:09:32  Vorakull  Игорь  "colectivity sucks, individualism rules"
16.02.2011  22:09:33  Игорь  Vorakull  better to be individualistic, then to become part of the mass?
16.02.2011  22:09:39  Vorakull  Игорь  right
16.02.2011  22:09:50  Vorakull  Игорь  even if you lose everything in the way
16.02.2011  22:10:08  Игорь  Vorakull  and how do you deal with the burden of loneliness?
16.02.2011  22:11:12  Vorakull  Игорь  not feeling anything diferent to lonelines with any partnership
16.02.2011  22:11:25  Vorakull  Игорь  Im not sure if I express myself well
16.02.2011  22:11:27  Vorakull  Игорь  enough
16.02.2011  22:11:33  Игорь  Vorakull  yes, I did not qutie understand
16.02.2011  22:12:09  Vorakull  Игорь  feeling the same when even when youre alone or not
16.02.2011  22:12:19  Vorakull  Игорь  being alone even with a lover or with friends
16.02.2011  22:12:27  Игорь  Vorakull  that's the whole solution?
16.02.2011  22:12:35  Vorakull  Игорь  of course
16.02.2011  22:12:45  Vorakull  Игорь  accept your loneliness, treasure it
16.02.2011  22:12:47  Vorakull  Игорь  fight for it
16.02.2011  22:12:55  Vorakull  Игорь  dont let them take it away from you
16.02.2011  22:12:59  Vorakull  Игорь  is everything you got
16.02.2011  22:13:03  Игорь  Vorakull  when I am completely alone, I act bizare, sing out loud songs, talk to myself out loud. that's what I should be like with other people around me?
16.02.2011  22:13:33  Vorakull  Игорь  no, but good question
16.02.2011  22:13:39  Vorakull  Игорь  you must feel the same
16.02.2011  22:13:44  Vorakull  Игорь  freedom of creativity
16.02.2011  22:13:45  Игорь  Vorakull  but not act the same?
16.02.2011  22:13:59  Vorakull  Игорь  always act according your interest
16.02.2011  22:14:11  Игорь  Vorakull  but always feel as if being alone?
16.02.2011  22:14:17  Vorakull  Игорь  mix technic with innocence and youll be fine
16.02.2011  22:14:22  Vorakull  Игорь  indeed
16.02.2011  22:14:34  Игорь  Vorakull  well, atleast that problem is out of the way
16.02.2011  22:14:56  Игорь  Vorakull  because I did attempt suicide a month ago because of this feeling of loneliness
16.02.2011  22:15:02  Vorakull  Игорь  learn how innocence is pervert it
16.02.2011  22:15:12  Vorakull  Игорь  and be innocent anyway
16.02.2011  22:15:21  Игорь  Vorakull  oh, that's easy
16.02.2011  22:15:37  Vorakull  Игорь  isnt pleansant?
16.02.2011  22:15:41  Игорь  Vorakull  sure is
16.02.2011  22:15:53  Игорь  Vorakull  and I just love the way people react to it
16.02.2011  22:15:54  Vorakull  Игорь  you still have a world o sensualism to uncover for yourself
16.02.2011  22:16:16  Vorakull  Игорь  evrything and everyone around are tools for you to explore yourself
16.02.2011  22:16:18  Vorakull  Игорь  just
16.02.2011  22:16:26  Vorakull  Игорь  learn how to be useful to others
16.02.2011  22:16:36  Vorakull  Игорь  so its fair
16.02.2011  22:16:46  Игорь  Vorakull  and what will happen, if we are unfair?
16.02.2011  22:17:24  Vorakull  Игорь  there is not a worse judge than ourselves
16.02.2011  22:17:31  Vorakull  Игорь  our SELVES
16.02.2011  22:17:53  Игорь  Vorakull  our trueselves will haunt us for being unfair?
16.02.2011  22:18:19  Vorakull  Игорь  its a way of saying it
16.02.2011  22:18:31  Vorakull  Игорь  about loneliness
16.02.2011  22:18:38  Vorakull  Игорь  I recall a phrase
16.02.2011  22:18:53  Vorakull  Игорь  let me check if I can traslate it without losing its significance
16.02.2011  22:19:01  Игорь  Vorakull  be my guest
16.02.2011  22:19:08  Vorakull  Игорь  "poor the one who depends on others to find his pleasure"
16.02.2011  22:19:14  Игорь  Vorakull  oh
16.02.2011  22:19:22  Игорь  Vorakull  I heard something similar
16.02.2011  22:19:34  Vorakull  Игорь  think about it
16.02.2011  22:19:38  Vorakull  Игорь  on those moments
16.02.2011  22:19:56  Vorakull  Игорь  you know whats the best moment to laught?
16.02.2011  22:20:13  Игорь  Vorakull  when it's ironic/funny/you get what you want
16.02.2011  22:20:28  Vorakull  Игорь  ironic yes
16.02.2011  22:20:28  Игорь  Vorakull  oh, and when it's about getting the last laugh
16.02.2011  22:20:31  Vorakull  Игорь  but to the extrteme
16.02.2011  22:20:46  Vorakull  Игорь  when everything goes absurdly wrong
16.02.2011  22:20:54  Vorakull  Игорь  when all your plans are destroyed
16.02.2011  22:21:06  Vorakull  Игорь  when you lose everything
16.02.2011  22:21:18  Vorakull  Игорь  thats the best moment to laught
16.02.2011  22:21:24  Игорь  Vorakull  why>
16.02.2011  22:21:25  Игорь  Vorakull  ?
16.02.2011  22:21:32  Игорь  Vorakull  wouldn't that be a moment for regrets?
16.02.2011  22:21:41  Vorakull  Игорь  think about it
16.02.2011  22:21:46  Vorakull  Игорь  for the same reason
16.02.2011  22:22:20  Vorakull  Игорь  being serious is the best reaction to triumph and achivements
16.02.2011  22:22:36  Vorakull  Игорь  avoid being obvious
16.02.2011  22:22:42  Vorakull  Игорь  dont act for others
16.02.2011  22:22:49  Vorakull  Игорь  act for yourself
16.02.2011  22:22:58  Vorakull  Игорь  its your movie, your play
16.02.2011  22:23:02  Игорь  Vorakull  and what if I want to act for myself by being joyful?
16.02.2011  22:23:13  Vorakull  Игорь  restrain
16.02.2011  22:23:25  Vorakull  Игорь  being joyful calls the contrary feeling
16.02.2011  22:23:33  Игорь  Vorakull  and envy?
16.02.2011  22:23:42  Игорь  Vorakull  from others
16.02.2011  22:23:50  Vorakull  Игорь  nurse from the envy from others
16.02.2011  22:24:02  Vorakull  Игорь  smile for yourself
16.02.2011  22:24:07  Vorakull  Игорь  with a bit of malice
16.02.2011  22:24:10  Vorakull  Игорь  and take it as a sign
16.02.2011  22:24:15  Vorakull  Игорь  youre doing things well
16.02.2011  22:24:28  Игорь  Vorakull  well that is how I act for most of the time
16.02.2011  22:24:40  Vorakull  Игорь  then youre doing right
16.02.2011  22:24:46  Игорь  Vorakull  really?
16.02.2011  22:24:53  Игорь  Vorakull  I thought I've been doing wrong all these years
16.02.2011  22:25:17  Vorakull  Игорь  its my opinion
16.02.2011  22:25:36  Vorakull  Игорь  save this conversations

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